tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9036104775563265647.post5091329867700786564..comments2024-03-25T12:31:58.169+00:00Comments on David Stimpson: The Therapy ZoneDavid Stimpsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15196038086564981619noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9036104775563265647.post-48408809356867931272012-04-20T11:08:19.092+01:002012-04-20T11:08:19.092+01:00Hello Moor,
An interesting comment.
Yes,...Hello Moor,<br /><br /> An interesting comment. <br /> Yes, that's the thing, it is always up to the performer to make the contact regarding royalty payments, TV companies don't go chasing actor and actresses to give them money.<br /><br />Regards<br />David<br />Be seeing youDavid Stimpsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15196038086564981619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9036104775563265647.post-83583066566422710812012-04-19T08:59:30.579+01:002012-04-19T08:59:30.579+01:00I once perused some old Film/TV Industry magazines...I once perused some old Film/TV Industry magazines and Equity were printing lists of names who the Union said they were holding royalty/copyright monies of various sort for. Amongst those names was Patrick McGoohan. The process is probably quite a sloppy one. When Danger Man first started resurfacing in Britain on TV via Channel 4 in the 80's/90's, Patsy Smart alerted her brother in Australia, and she applied on his behalf to the TV company about the royalty payments he was not receiving. According to my source, her reply from the company included an apology, and an explanation that they had thought Ralph Smart was dead.Moor Larkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05275057917684784541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9036104775563265647.post-48629115972298943872012-04-18T09:31:10.335+01:002012-04-18T09:31:10.335+01:00Hello Mister Anonymous
An interesting comment. ...Hello Mister Anonymous<br /><br /> An interesting comment. And of course it was up to ITC to pay royalties. Advance royalty payments, an interesting clause in the contracts.<br /> I wonder if Polygram, the next owners of the rights to 'the Prisoner' paid any repeat royalties, then of course it was Seagram for a short time, followed by Carlton, and now Granada Ventures.<br /><br />Regards<br />David<br />BCNUDavid Stimpsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15196038086564981619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9036104775563265647.post-41958287443172603112012-04-16T23:58:54.167+01:002012-04-16T23:58:54.167+01:00Hello David
There is an item in the London Times ...Hello David<br /><br />There is an item in the London Times that states that Lew Grade has pre-sold The Prisoner to CBS in 1966.<br /><br />There is an interview with Michael Dann in the Chicago Tribune that Dann give an accounting of the shoot times and budgets for The Prisoner and how impressed he was with the production.<br /><br />The Prisoner was pre-sold in multiple markets before the final first 13 episodes were even completed.<br /><br />The claims of some delays in royalties to the various writers is because their original contracts contained a revolutionary clause at the time that they receive an advance on royalties.<br /><br />Mr.McGoohan would have had nothing to do with the payment of those royalties as that would have been the duty of ITC.<br /><br />Sincerely<br /><br />Mr. AnonymousAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9036104775563265647.post-72583775116237190962012-04-14T09:23:42.517+01:002012-04-14T09:23:42.517+01:00Hello Moor,
Yes, and it should be humourous, a...Hello Moor,<br /><br /> Yes, and it should be humourous, and that was my stab at humour, as well as being informative, which reminds me of a story Frank Maher once told me. <br /> Back in the 1990's when 'the Prisoner' was being screened on 'BRAVO' Frank decided to contact 'Bravo' and ask about his repeat royalties. He spoke to a young woman on the telephone, saying that 'Bravo' was screening 'the Prisoner, ' and said that being the case he was entitled to royalty payments. The young woman said "The Prisoner, what's that?" Frank explained who he was, and that it is a television series in which he was the stunt co-rodinatior, and stunt double for Patrick McGoohan. "Frank who?" the woman asked. And as I understand it, that's why ITV1 have never rescreened 'the Prisoner' since 1976, because of having to pay royality payments to the actors etc. If that is the case, I don't know how Channel 4 got away with not paying royalty payments in the past, and does paying royalties not matter when ITV4 has screend the series?<br /><br />Regards<br />David<br />BCNUDavid Stimpsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15196038086564981619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9036104775563265647.post-48939498117866191852012-04-13T17:05:10.138+01:002012-04-13T17:05:10.138+01:00Blogging should always broaden the mind, if not ch...Blogging should always broaden the mind, if not change it.... ;-D<br /><br />Not to labour the point but Roger Parkes says he and Markstein attempted to litigate around 1972, bercause they wanted a bigger slice of the prisoner pie, so successful was it:<br /><br />Mr.Parkes, referring to his lunching with George Markstein: "...the topic that we always discussed ad nauseum, was why we weren’t getting any royalties for The Prisoner…it was well over five years, with the show, by then, shown to multi billion audiences worldwide before our legal threats to ATV finally produced a trickle of royalties." <br /><br /> http://numbersixwasinnocent.blogspot.co.uk/2011/12/mcgoohan-in-his-own-words-george.htmlMoor Larkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05275057917684784541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9036104775563265647.post-39067813620982137122012-04-13T15:17:15.205+01:002012-04-13T15:17:15.205+01:00Hello Moor,
As Oscar wilde might once have sa...Hello Moor,<br /><br /> As Oscar wilde might once have said, "There's only one thing worse than writing tosh, that's writing un-read tosh!"<br /><br /> Well I certainly won't argue the matter, and bow to what seems to be a superior knowledge in this matter, and I thank you for informing the readership of my blog.<br /><br />Kind Regards<br />David<br />Enjoy the weekend which will soon be upon us.David Stimpsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15196038086564981619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9036104775563265647.post-65482693096767211062012-04-13T14:00:48.015+01:002012-04-13T14:00:48.015+01:00David, like I said, I have no idea where you get a...David, like I said, I have no idea where you get all this tosh from. Old fan club stuff I assume. American newspaper reports in 1968 remarked, <br /><br />"The Prisoner has already been seen in England, Canada, the Far East and Latin America. It has not been seen before in the United States". <br /><br />So the exact opposite of what you say are the actual facts. <br /><br />Your other reply is somewhat erroneous too. <br />First, it should be clarified that Koroshi was shown in only one or two regions of the UK.<br />Second, the reason for this was not necessarily because Fall Out was not ready (or could not have been made ready), the primary reason for this was that some itv regions were a full two weeks behind in terms of episode broadcasting. <br /><br />Strangely enough. this actually goes further to emphasise how darned popular and successful The Prisoner was!! In fact it was so popular that the companies realised that for one or two of them to show the finale some weeks before the others was going to create the ultimate *spoiler* for those viewers, and cause major negative public and viewer reaction. Therefore the itv Regions that were ahead of the game used those epsiodes of Danger Man to take a pause and allow the other areas to catch up with The Prisoner, to episode 16. <br /><br />This last might seem a bit weird nowadays, but it does go back to my earlier point that much of the show's popularity was predicated on the popularity of McGoohan, so the slot was very much McGoohan's Hour and the viewers were hooked.Moor Larkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05275057917684784541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9036104775563265647.post-77836406619339886312012-04-13T08:32:26.093+01:002012-04-13T08:32:26.093+01:00Hello Steve,
That decision to screen 'Kor...Hello Steve,<br /><br /> That decision to screen 'Koroshi' and 'Shinda Shima' was not an inexplicable one, it was one born out of nessecity. Because the screening of 'the Prisoner' had caught up with the episodes produced, and so there was a delay until further episodes were edited together ready for screening.<br /><br />Regards<br />David<br />BCNUDavid Stimpsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15196038086564981619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9036104775563265647.post-8684058882572431942012-04-13T08:12:43.784+01:002012-04-13T08:12:43.784+01:00Hello Moor,
Yes, I admit that 'the Prisone...Hello Moor,<br /><br /> Yes, I admit that 'the Prisoner' was repeated on regional ITV, but that does not make 'the prisoner' a commercial success, only by selling the series to other countries makes the series a success, something which happened in later years. But originally it was only one television company in America who bought it!<br /><br />Regards<br />David<br />BCNUDavid Stimpsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15196038086564981619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9036104775563265647.post-52691033805748781782012-04-12T13:12:38.930+01:002012-04-12T13:12:38.930+01:00I don't know whgere your information comes fro...I don't know whgere your information comes from David, but McGoohan's Prisoner was not a commercial failure at all. It garnered immediate repeats in some ITV regions the following year, something that would not have happened if it had been *unpopular*. Similarly in the USA, it was repeated in 1969 - something the even more excessively commercial Americans would not have contemplated if the show was not attractive to Advertisers. The show had also been sold, and was being shown in many parts of Europe, proving especially popular in France apparently, and also was unusual in being popular in Japan, and South America. Much of this popularity may simply have been because back then viewers simply adored McGoohan himself I guess. He was a significant world star by then.<br /><br />I'm afraid that second section of your blog is utter tosh.<br /><br />The Everyman *bankruptcy* seems unrelated to the prisoner show as no queries arose about Everyman until about 1970 and the company was not wound up until 1974. I suspect those problems had more to do with McGoohan's later dealings with Kenneth Griffith and the documentary project McGoohan financed for Griffith, which was largely abortive.Moor Larkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05275057917684784541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9036104775563265647.post-84482016178401678242012-04-12T11:45:40.944+01:002012-04-12T11:45:40.944+01:00Oops! In my 'suggested' screening order ab...Oops! In my 'suggested' screening order above - I've inserted 'A Change Of Mind' twice!<br /><br />I meant to insert 'The Chimes Of Big Ben' between 'Dance' and 'Funeral'!<br /><br />BCNU. );oBSteveJailbirdMatthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11936681840889232716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9036104775563265647.post-75108764074194011492012-04-12T11:40:23.862+01:002012-04-12T11:40:23.862+01:00Had the episodes of the series been shown in a log...Had the episodes of the series been shown in a logical order, e.g. Arrival, Free, Checkmate, Dance, Change, Funeral, Schizoid, Returns, A, B & C, Change, General, Girl, Forsake, Hammer, Harmony, Once and Fall Out and not been disrupted over Xmas 1966 when an inexplicable decision was made to air the last 2 episodes of 'Danger Man' (Koroshi and Shinda Shima), the original screening may have been more successful - resulting in a 2nd season.<br /><br /> By the end of the end of the series, writers were becoming more imaginative e.g; 'Living In Harmony' and 'The Girl Who Was Death'.<br /><br />Most frustrating... BCNU.SteveJailbirdMatthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11936681840889232716noreply@blogger.com