The Prisoner might not have been a club member, but he was certainly taken to lunch by Sir Charles at his club, where they had their favourite dish - jugged hare, which was on the menu.
No, I can't really see the Prisoner as being a member of any club. And as for Sir Charles's club, well that's a gentleman’s club no doubt. The kind of club which is for gentlemen only, meaning no women are allowed over the threshold, allowing men to get away from their wives, mothers, and even daughters! Perhaps the kind of club filled with old doddering men, perhaps men once of power, who have lunch then spend the rest of the day in their favourite chair asleep behind a newspaper! Not the kind of club I think for the Prisoner, if indeed the Prisoner is actually a member of any club in the first place, which somehow I doubt. However he is quite happy to go to a club as a guest from time to time.
I used to be a club member for several years, but then the time came when I resigned my subscription!
Be seeing you.
Apart from demonstrating your lamentable ignorance of how traditional clubs have transformed themselves in the 21st century, what is the point of the above post? It clearly states the obvious, as you see it, and are wrong. So wassup?
ReplyDeleteI think that "anonymous" has forgotten that The Prisoner was set in the 20th Century and therefore his comment is totally pointless, and wrong. So wassup?
ReplyDeleteI think my fellow "anonymous" has overlooked the fact that David writes on this matter in the present tense. As a published writer, he would know the difference between past and present tense and would have used the past tense had he been referring to the 20th century.
DeleteIt is perfectly acceptable to write in terms of past-set fictional characters in the present tense. For example, were we to have a discussion about which side runs The Village in the series, it would be perfectly acceptable to write "the village is run by the Russians" rather than "the village was run by the Russians". So wassup?
DeleteDavid's stumbling piece begins in the past tense and ends in the past tense when he is referring to events of some time ago both fictional and factual. The middle paragraph is in the present tense and therefore refers to the, um, present.
DeleteDavid's knowledge of 21st century gentleman's clubland is as woeful as his understanding of 21st century independent education.
Although he writes in the present, his views are stuck in the past.
The second paragraph clearly refers to Sir Charle's club and clubs like his. 20th century. You simply got it wrong.
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"The second paragraph clearly refers to Sir Charle's club and clubs like his. 20th century."
DeletePlease prove the above statement.
Let me quote it: "And as for Sir Charles's club, well that's a gentleman’s club no doubt. The kind of club .."
DeleteJust read it in context.
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15 days ago David wrote "The next day Sir Charles took the Prisoner/Colonel to his club, their favourite dish was on the menu, Jugged hare…….."
DeleteThis is in the past tense, as it should be, being about the 20th century. Therefore, when it's in the present tense by the same writer on the same subject it's about contemporary club life. I don't understand why you find the distinction so difficult to grasp.
Sorry, I read it several times and tried to get your point of view. But despite the usage of present tense the second paragraph still clearly refers to Sir Charles's club or clubs the Prisoner would have visited - as a member or not. Therefore it refers to the series and clubs of the 20th century. No need to argue.
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A club for those who don't want to be club members? Society of non-conformists? - BCNU!
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