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Monday 6 January 2014

The Chimes of Big Ben

   During ‘The Chimes of Big Ben,’ was Nadia sure about Lithuania, and the village being 30 miles from the Polish border? I mean the conversation between Nadia and   
    No.6 went as follows;
    No.6: “Where are we Nadia?”
    Nadia: “Lithuania.”
    Announcer: “Curfew time, one minute to curfew.”
    No.6: “Lithuania.”
    Announcer: “Sixty seconds.
    NO.6:.... “In the Baltic. That means, making for West Germany, Denmark, that's er, three hundred miles at least.”
    Nadia: “No it doesn't mean that.
    No.6: “Why not?”
    Nadia: “Well, nearer, in Poland.”
    A little later the conversation continues as follows:
    Nadia: “Thirty miles, that's all.”
    No.6: “Eh?”
    Nadia: Yes, that's how far we are from the Polish border. Beyond, on the coast there's   a little fishing village, Maniewo, they resist them.”
   Well if you have a glance at the Atlas, you will see that the village is far from being 30 miles from the Polish border, in fact there is no coastal border at all between Lithuania and Poland, because of Russian State of Kaliningrad in between, which has a coastline of some seventy five miles.
   The reason for getting it wrong, could be when in working out the plot of The Chimes of Big Ben, Vincent Tilsley got his geography wrong.
    The Author knew it was wrong and scripted Number 8 to make the mistake, by ignorance or on purpose. After all, the whole "escape" was a set-up and the village presumably not really meant to be in Lithuania. However No.6 didn't spot the mistake.
   Kalliningrad was part of Poland or Lithuania, I don't think so.
   Or the Prisoner is set at an unspecified time period where this might be the case.
   One further mistake as No.6 and Nadia make their escape by sea, is that they were supposed to have been sailing from Lithuania to Poland, the land is on their right. However, they would have been sailing west in the Baltic Sea and the Polish shore would therefore have been on their left - unless they were in the Zalew Wislany and making for the spit of land to its north.

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3 comments:

  1. Not only Vincent Tilsley got it wrong, the German version adds even more confusion here in an otherwise brilliant dubbing version. Dialogue writer and director Joachim Brinkmann - or whoever was in charge of this - changes the escape route completely. In a survey on the German version of The Prisoner an old 601 magazine put it this way:

    >>Continuing the story, they meet up with Nadia's contact man who usually confirms their route to London as "By sea, Gdansk - Danzig - you know. By air, to Copenhagen. By air, again, to London." Except that they're now elsewhere, so the route becomes "Boat Turkey - Istanbul - understood. Then plane Athens. Plane again Paris, then London."
    Hand me that world atlas, I'm starting to lose my sense of direction!<<

    Oh yes. Nobody knows how and why this drastic reshuffle came about. My personal explanation being that it may have been considered politically too delicate by the TV station to place the action geographically in what before WW2 was German territory. Thus it was relocated to "innocent" areas of the globe. - BCNU!

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    1. Hello Arno,
      I enjoyed reading your comment, and I'm sure my other readers from it to be most informative. Mind you I'm not surprised you were starting to lose yout sense of direction!

      Very kind regards
      David
      BCNU

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  2. Not me, David! Larry wrote it. In addition to the (verbal) changes made to the dialogue the German version also excised the image insert showing "London via Danzig & Copenhaguen". - BCNU!

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